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        <p>
      Many of you have heard me repeat a portion of this classic from J. Vernon McGee. What
      a surprise to find it while perusing <em>Nelson's Personal Handbook on Prayer</em>!
      Here's the full excerpt (which should be read with McGee's voice in mind if you have
      ever heard him!):
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            <font size="2">“I have often wondered why the church in the past has not been
      divided on the subject </font>
            <font size="2">of the posture of prayer. This is an
      issue that could divide the church, as it seems just </font>
            <font size="2">about everything
      else has. The mode of baptism has certainly divided the church. There </font>
            <font size="2">are
      those who believe sprinkling is the correct mode, a few believe pouring (that means </font>
            <font size="2">getting
      a pitcher of water and dousing the head) is the correct mode, and others believe </font>
            <font size="2">immersion
      is the correct mode. Still others believe you should be immersed not just one </font>
            <font size="2">time,
      but three times. Then some say you should go down headfirst, and others say backwards. </font>
            <font size="2">There
      are even some today who believe that if it’s not done by running water then </font>
            <font size="2">you
      haven’t really been baptized. As you can see, baptism has certainly divided
      the church.</font>
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            <font size="2">That’s why I say it’s a wonder that the posture of prayer
      hasn’t divided the church. </font>
            <font size="2">I’m surprised we don’t
      have a group today known as 'standers'. They believe in standing </font>
            <font size="2">up
      when you pray. Then it’s a wonder that we don’t have a group of 'kneelers'
      who </font>
            <font size="2">believe you should kneel down when you pray. Then there
      ought to be a group of 'sitters'. </font>
            <font size="2">They believe you should sit
      when you pray. Then there’s another group that </font>
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        <font face="Bembo">believes you ought to lie down—they’re the
   'liars'. That would really be a large group! I didn’t realize anyone else had
   considered this issue before, but then I discovered this poem called 'The Prayer of
   Cyrus Brown'.
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              <font size="2">'The proper way for a man to pray,' said Deacon Lemuel </font>
              <font size="2">Keyes,<br /></font>
              <font size="2"> 'and the only proper attitude is down upon his </font>
              <font size="2">knees.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'No, I should say the way to pray,' said Reverend </font>
              <font size="2">Doctor
      Wise,<br />
      'is standing straight with outstretched arms </font>
              <font size="2">and rapt and upturned
      eyes.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'Oh, no, no, no!” said Elder Sloe. 'Such posture is too </font>
              <font size="2">proud.<br />
      A man should pray with eyes fast closed and head </font>
              <font size="2">contritely
      bowed.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'It seems to me his hands should be austerely clasped in </font>
              <font size="2">front,<br />
      with both thumbs pointing toward the ground,' said </font>
              <font size="2">Reverend
      Doctor Blunt.</font>
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              <font size="2">'Last year I fell in Hodkin’s well, head first,' said Cyrus </font>
              <font size="2">Brown.<br />
      'With both my heels a-stickin’ up, my head apointin’ </font>
              <font size="2">down.</font>
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              <font size="2">And I made a prayer right then and there, the best prayer I ever said, 
      <br />
      the prayenist prayer I ever prayed was astandin’ </font>
              <font size="2">on my
      head.'“</font>
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              <em>
                <font size="2">— <a href="http://www.somervillepubliclibrary.org/LHsam.htm">Sam
      Walter Foss</a> (1858–1911)</font>
              </em>
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                <p align="left">
      J. Vernon McGee, 
   </p>
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              <i>
                <font face="Bembo-Italic" size="2">On Prayer: Praying and Living in
   the Father’s Will 
   </font>
              </i>
            </font>
            <font face="Bembo" size="2">(Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers,
   2002), 21–24.
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      <title>the proper posture for prayer</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:24:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
   Many of you have heard me repeat a portion of this classic from J. Vernon McGee. What
   a surprise to find it while perusing &lt;em&gt;Nelson's Personal Handbook on Prayer&lt;/em&gt;!
   Here's the full excerpt (which should be read with McGee's voice in mind if you have
   ever heard him!):
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;font face=Bembo size=3&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;#8220;I have often wondered why the church in the past has not been
   divided on the subject &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;of the posture of prayer. This is an issue
   that could divide the church, as it seems just &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;about everything
   else has. The mode of baptism has certainly divided the church. There &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;are
   those who believe sprinkling is the correct mode, a few believe pouring (that means &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;getting
   a pitcher of water and dousing the head) is the correct mode, and others believe &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;immersion
   is the correct mode. Still others believe you should be immersed not just one &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;time,
   but three times. Then some say you should go down headfirst, and others say backwards. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;There
   are even some today who believe that if it&amp;#8217;s not done by running water then &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;you
   haven&amp;#8217;t really been baptized. As you can see, baptism has certainly divided
   the church.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;That&amp;#8217;s why I say it&amp;#8217;s a wonder that the posture of prayer
   hasn&amp;#8217;t divided the church. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;I&amp;#8217;m surprised we don&amp;#8217;t
   have a group today known as 'standers'. They believe in standing &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;up
   when you pray. Then it&amp;#8217;s a wonder that we don&amp;#8217;t have a group of 'kneelers'
   who &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;believe you should kneel down when you pray. Then there ought
   to be a group of 'sitters'. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;They believe you should sit when you
   pray. Then there&amp;#8217;s another group that &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo&gt;believes you ought to lie down&amp;#8212;they&amp;#8217;re the 'liars'.
That would really be a large group! I didn&amp;#8217;t realize anyone else had considered
this issue before, but then I discovered this poem called 'The Prayer of Cyrus Brown'.&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=3&gt; &lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'The proper way for a man to pray,' said Deacon Lemuel &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Keyes,&lt;br&gt;
   &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;nbsp;'and the only proper attitude is down upon his &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;knees.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'No, I should say the way to pray,' said Reverend &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Doctor
   Wise,&lt;br&gt;
   'is standing straight with outstretched arms &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;and rapt and upturned
   eyes.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'Oh, no, no, no!&amp;#8221; said Elder Sloe. 'Such posture is too &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;proud.&lt;br&gt;
   A man should pray with eyes fast closed and head &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;contritely bowed.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'It seems to me his hands should be austerely clasped in &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;front,&lt;br&gt;
   with both thumbs pointing toward the ground,' said &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Reverend Doctor
   Blunt.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'Last year I fell in Hodkin&amp;#8217;s well, head first,' said Cyrus &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Brown.&lt;br&gt;
   'With both my heels a-stickin&amp;#8217; up, my head apointin&amp;#8217; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;down.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;And I made a prayer right then and there, the best prayer I ever said, 
   &lt;br&gt;
   the prayenist prayer I ever prayed was astandin&amp;#8217; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;on my head.'&amp;#8220;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;em&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;#8212; &lt;a href="http://www.somervillepubliclibrary.org/LHsam.htm"&gt;Sam
   Walter Foss&lt;/a&gt; (1858&amp;#8211;1911)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;font size=2&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=2&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   J. Vernon McGee, 
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo-Italic size=2&gt;On Prayer: Praying and Living in the Father&amp;#8217;s
Will 
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=2&gt;(Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2002), 21&amp;#8211;24.&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;
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