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      Many of you have heard me repeat a portion of this classic from J. Vernon McGee. What
      a surprise to find it while perusing <em>Nelson's Personal Handbook on Prayer</em>!
      Here's the full excerpt (which should be read with McGee's voice in mind if you have
      ever heard him!):
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            <font size="2">“I have often wondered why the church in the past has not been
      divided on the subject </font>
            <font size="2">of the posture of prayer. This is an
      issue that could divide the church, as it seems just </font>
            <font size="2">about everything
      else has. The mode of baptism has certainly divided the church. There </font>
            <font size="2">are
      those who believe sprinkling is the correct mode, a few believe pouring (that means </font>
            <font size="2">getting
      a pitcher of water and dousing the head) is the correct mode, and others believe </font>
            <font size="2">immersion
      is the correct mode. Still others believe you should be immersed not just one </font>
            <font size="2">time,
      but three times. Then some say you should go down headfirst, and others say backwards. </font>
            <font size="2">There
      are even some today who believe that if it’s not done by running water then </font>
            <font size="2">you
      haven’t really been baptized. As you can see, baptism has certainly divided
      the church.</font>
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            <font size="2">That’s why I say it’s a wonder that the posture of prayer
      hasn’t divided the church. </font>
            <font size="2">I’m surprised we don’t
      have a group today known as 'standers'. They believe in standing </font>
            <font size="2">up
      when you pray. Then it’s a wonder that we don’t have a group of 'kneelers'
      who </font>
            <font size="2">believe you should kneel down when you pray. Then there
      ought to be a group of 'sitters'. </font>
            <font size="2">They believe you should sit
      when you pray. Then there’s another group that </font>
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        <font face="Bembo">believes you ought to lie down—they’re the
   'liars'. That would really be a large group! I didn’t realize anyone else had
   considered this issue before, but then I discovered this poem called 'The Prayer of
   Cyrus Brown'.
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              <font size="2">'The proper way for a man to pray,' said Deacon Lemuel </font>
              <font size="2">Keyes,<br /></font>
              <font size="2"> 'and the only proper attitude is down upon his </font>
              <font size="2">knees.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'No, I should say the way to pray,' said Reverend </font>
              <font size="2">Doctor
      Wise,<br />
      'is standing straight with outstretched arms </font>
              <font size="2">and rapt and upturned
      eyes.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'Oh, no, no, no!” said Elder Sloe. 'Such posture is too </font>
              <font size="2">proud.<br />
      A man should pray with eyes fast closed and head </font>
              <font size="2">contritely
      bowed.'</font>
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              <font size="2">'It seems to me his hands should be austerely clasped in </font>
              <font size="2">front,<br />
      with both thumbs pointing toward the ground,' said </font>
              <font size="2">Reverend
      Doctor Blunt.</font>
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              <font size="2">'Last year I fell in Hodkin’s well, head first,' said Cyrus </font>
              <font size="2">Brown.<br />
      'With both my heels a-stickin’ up, my head apointin’ </font>
              <font size="2">down.</font>
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              <font size="2">And I made a prayer right then and there, the best prayer I ever said, 
      <br />
      the prayenist prayer I ever prayed was astandin’ </font>
              <font size="2">on my
      head.'“</font>
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              <em>
                <font size="2">— <a href="http://www.somervillepubliclibrary.org/LHsam.htm">Sam
      Walter Foss</a> (1858–1911)</font>
              </em>
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                <p align="left">
      J. Vernon McGee, 
   </p>
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              <i>
                <font face="Bembo-Italic" size="2">On Prayer: Praying and Living in
   the Father’s Will 
   </font>
              </i>
            </font>
            <font face="Bembo" size="2">(Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers,
   2002), 21–24.
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      <title>the proper posture for prayer</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
   Many of you have heard me repeat a portion of this classic from J. Vernon McGee. What
   a surprise to find it while perusing &lt;em&gt;Nelson's Personal Handbook on Prayer&lt;/em&gt;!
   Here's the full excerpt (which should be read with McGee's voice in mind if you have
   ever heard him!):
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;font face=Bembo size=3&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;#8220;I have often wondered why the church in the past has not been
   divided on the subject &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;of the posture of prayer. This is an issue
   that could divide the church, as it seems just &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;about everything
   else has. The mode of baptism has certainly divided the church. There &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;are
   those who believe sprinkling is the correct mode, a few believe pouring (that means &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;getting
   a pitcher of water and dousing the head) is the correct mode, and others believe &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;immersion
   is the correct mode. Still others believe you should be immersed not just one &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;time,
   but three times. Then some say you should go down headfirst, and others say backwards. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;There
   are even some today who believe that if it&amp;#8217;s not done by running water then &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;you
   haven&amp;#8217;t really been baptized. As you can see, baptism has certainly divided
   the church.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;That&amp;#8217;s why I say it&amp;#8217;s a wonder that the posture of prayer
   hasn&amp;#8217;t divided the church. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;I&amp;#8217;m surprised we don&amp;#8217;t
   have a group today known as 'standers'. They believe in standing &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;up
   when you pray. Then it&amp;#8217;s a wonder that we don&amp;#8217;t have a group of 'kneelers'
   who &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;believe you should kneel down when you pray. Then there ought
   to be a group of 'sitters'. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;They believe you should sit when you
   pray. Then there&amp;#8217;s another group that &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo&gt;believes you ought to lie down&amp;#8212;they&amp;#8217;re the 'liars'.
That would really be a large group! I didn&amp;#8217;t realize anyone else had considered
this issue before, but then I discovered this poem called 'The Prayer of Cyrus Brown'.&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=3&gt; &lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'The proper way for a man to pray,' said Deacon Lemuel &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Keyes,&lt;br&gt;
   &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;nbsp;'and the only proper attitude is down upon his &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;knees.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'No, I should say the way to pray,' said Reverend &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Doctor
   Wise,&lt;br&gt;
   'is standing straight with outstretched arms &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;and rapt and upturned
   eyes.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'Oh, no, no, no!&amp;#8221; said Elder Sloe. 'Such posture is too &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;proud.&lt;br&gt;
   A man should pray with eyes fast closed and head &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;contritely bowed.'&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'It seems to me his hands should be austerely clasped in &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;front,&lt;br&gt;
   with both thumbs pointing toward the ground,' said &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Reverend Doctor
   Blunt.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;'Last year I fell in Hodkin&amp;#8217;s well, head first,' said Cyrus &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;Brown.&lt;br&gt;
   'With both my heels a-stickin&amp;#8217; up, my head apointin&amp;#8217; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;down.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;font size=2&gt;And I made a prayer right then and there, the best prayer I ever said, 
   &lt;br&gt;
   the prayenist prayer I ever prayed was astandin&amp;#8217; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;on my head.'&amp;#8220;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   &lt;em&gt;&lt;font size=2&gt;&amp;#8212; &lt;a href="http://www.somervillepubliclibrary.org/LHsam.htm"&gt;Sam
   Walter Foss&lt;/a&gt; (1858&amp;#8211;1911)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;font size=2&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=2&gt; 
&lt;p align=left&gt;
   J. Vernon McGee, 
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo-Italic size=2&gt;On Prayer: Praying and Living in the Father&amp;#8217;s
Will 
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=Bembo size=2&gt;(Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2002), 21&amp;#8211;24.&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;
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        <p>
      Eli is back in the blog biz, and it even looks like John Moody might be ready
      to resurface, so I better get back on track here. Gotta have at least one entry this
      month, so here's a little tidbit from perusing a few pages of <em>Systematic Theology</em> by
      Augustus Strong:
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          <em>“The Himalayas are the raised letters upon which we blind children put our
      fingers to spell out the name of God.”<br /></em>J. H. Barrow
   </p>
        <p>
      I've never seen the Himalayas in person, but I thought it was a great word picture.
      Here's the section where this was quoted, if you're interested:
   </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 9pt 0in 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in; mso-layout-grid-align: none">
          <font color="#000000">(<i>a</i>) Natural theology.—The universe is a source
      of theology. The Scriptures assert that God has revealed himself in nature. There
      is not only an outward witness to his existence and character in the constitution
      and government of the universe (</font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">Ps. 19</span>
          <font color="#000000">; </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">Acts
      14:17</span>
          <font color="#000000">; </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">Rom. 1:20</span>
          <font color="#000000">),
      but an inward witness to his existence and character in the heart of every man (</font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">Rom.
      1:17</span>
          <font color="#000000">, </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">18</span>
          <font color="#000000">, </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">19</span>
          <font color="#000000">, </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">20</span>
          <font color="#000000">, </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">32</span>
          <font color="#000000">; </font>
          <span style="COLOR: #00007f">2:15</span>
          <font color="#000000">).
      The systematic exhibition of these facts, whether derived from observation, history
      or science, constitutes natural theology.</font>
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        <p>
      Amen!
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      <title>quote o' the day</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:57:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
   Eli is back in the blog biz, and it even looks like John Moody might&amp;nbsp;be ready
   to resurface, so I better get back on track here. Gotta have at least one entry this
   month, so here's a little tidbit from perusing a few pages of &lt;em&gt;Systematic Theology&lt;/em&gt; by
   Augustus Strong:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
   &lt;em&gt;&amp;#8220;The Himalayas are the raised letters upon which we blind children put our
   fingers to spell out the name of God.&amp;#8221;&lt;br&gt;
   &lt;/em&gt;J. H. Barrow
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
   I've never seen the Himalayas in person, but I thought it was&amp;nbsp;a great word picture.
   Here's the&amp;nbsp;section where this was quoted, if you're interested:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 9pt 0in 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"&gt;
   &lt;font color=#000000&gt;(&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;) Natural theology.&amp;#8212;The universe is a source of
   theology. The Scriptures assert that God has revealed himself in nature. There is
   not only an outward witness to his existence and character in the constitution and
   government of the universe (&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;Ps. 19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;Acts
   14:17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;Rom. 1:20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;),
   but an inward witness to his existence and character in the heart of every man (&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;Rom.
   1:17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;32&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #00007f"&gt;2:15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font color=#000000&gt;).
   The systematic exhibition of these facts, whether derived from observation, history
   or science, constitutes natural theology.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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   Amen!
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